bought them online for a good price, but my legs are too skinny for the size XL that i bought. i'm 6' 165lbs, and the length on them is good, just can't get em tight enough. i picked them up for $25 + shipping, so i really just want to make my money back on them. not the same pad, but they're pretty similar to these... http://www.jensonusa.com/store/product/PG402B01-Fox+Launch+Kneeshin+Pad..... i'll try and get some photos though.